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Thursday, February 09, 2006

colonial sense of humor

7 Comments:

At 3:45 PM, Blogger Andre said...

What jews and Israel have todo with this whole cartun bullshit?
I´m brazilian, catholic and don´t have much contact with muslims, but the idea we get from you is that the jews are blamed for every single problem of the islamic/arab world, like a scapegoat for your own frustration.
I think you are missing the target on your response!

 
At 3:53 PM, Blogger Moproblems said...

The holocaust is not a religion,you stupid fucking idiots. Get a clue, get civilized, and evolve.

 
At 5:06 PM, Blogger melodius said...

OK, you've made your point, the same guys who now pretend to defend freedom of expression have laws that prohibit the expression of certain ideas they dislike. Point taken.

However, I'd like to know how serious you are about freedom of expression. Do you e.g. accept that one should be free to publish racist cartoons that show Moroccan immigrants, which as you know are illegal in Belgium and most other European countries ?

Another thing I was wondering about is why you do not answer the main message that these (insulting, bad, etc.) cartoons contain, i.e. that there is a problematic link between Islam and violence. Notice I haven't written that Islam as such is violent or that muslims are violent, which would be false. But you can hardly expect non-muslims not to notice that 9/11 or the London bombings have been motivated by Islam and that some people would like to exterminate all "kafirun".

I'm looking forward to read your answers.

 
At 5:22 PM, Blogger Juan Pablo said...

To melodius:

Of course there is a link between islam and violence...

As much as there is a link between christians and violence (bosnia, ireland, chiapas (méxico)), etc.

The problem is that religions allow people to be manipulated. Period.

You see, must religions require the believer to shut off his/her brain for a little while.

The same goes for nationalism, racism, etc.

Hopefully we are moving towards a more secular society, slowly but surely.

 
At 5:44 PM, Blogger melodius said...

Juan Pablo, you seem to forget that secular societies have been responsible for the most horrible crimes of the 20th century.

Moreover, although there are christian criminals/terrorists, they do not try to justify their crimes with christian teachings.

In contrast, some people blow themselves up (and everyone unlucky enough to stand nearby) shouting "Allahu Akbar". That's what the cartoons were about, and frankly, protesting them with more violence somehow strikes me as not very convincing.

 
At 6:23 PM, Blogger A Call to Muslims said...

Arab, Western and Asian TVs all show suicide bombers preparing to do their deeds and delivering messages on videos. They always invoke Islam as being their main motivation in blowing them and others up. These images and these words are what makes people all around the world very skeptical about Islam. If muslims really want their religion not to be associated with violence then they should redirect their current anger at the Danes and other Europeans towards the terrorists. Unfortunately there has never been any form of massive protest against terrorism of the sort we see now against the Danish cartoons. And many muslims in Europe simply go with the flow and just avoid looking at the main problem, which is not anti-muslim sentiment but muslim apathy.

 
At 11:03 PM, Blogger Ramo said...

While Islaamic human bombs may invoke Islaam as their reason, the real reason is always political. I'm sure if the human bombs had access to Apache helicopters and Cruise missiles they'd much rather use them.

And Christians use Chritianity to justify deaths all the time, starting with the Crusades, through the British occupation of half the World, The killings of 40 million native Americans, and the bombing of Iraaq cause "God told me".

Modern Israel was founded on the pretext that the Bible/Torah said it should be there, so by definition, any killing done by Israel is religious.

And yes, most Muslim & Arab countries are dictatorships, and are need of reform, human rights etc. Remember that they've only been officilly free of occupation for a few decades, and since then US/Europe has had a hand in propping up corrupt regimes. Give them time, they're coming round.

 

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